2008 Draft Round 1

1)Rogues==================F. Gore (SF RB)
2)Gladiators==============L. Johnson (KC RB)
3)Fresh Fish==============W. McGahee (BAL RB)
4)Fogduckers==============C. Portis (WAS RB)
5)Tenacious Tanuki========R. Grant (GB RB)
6)Sappy Sap Suckers=======(J. Addai signed)
7)Pick Rabbits============(S. Jackson signed)
8)Blue Heelers============(B. Westbrook signed)
9)Coonhounds==============(L. Tomlinson signed)
10)Cybertron Decepticons=============(P. Manning signed)


I'll update this post as the picks come in.

Complete Rules For Contracts After May And More

Time for voting is pretty much over so here is the rules that have been changed this year.

1)We will have 1 starting QB instead of 2. (roster will still remain at 15 players)

2)We will go to 6 playoff teams next season instead of 8

3)Complete contract rules. These are permanent and can't have major changes made to them. All small issues that come up during the middle of the season will be ruled on by me and voted on before next year. Here we go

----You can only sign draft picks from the most current draft. They can be players you drafted yourself or traded for but must be a draft pick. IMPORTANT: if you release a draft pick that player loses all contract rights, meaning he can't be signed anymore by anyone, it doesn't matter if someone picks him up, he still can't be signed anymore.

----You will only be able to sign players that are drafted and on your roster at the end of the season

----Traded players can be traded more then once and still be signed as long as they weren't released.

----If you trade/release a player that is under contract already, that player loses his current contract. IMPORTANT: players that are under contract and go to their contract team are not "drafted" players and can't be signed by a new owner if they trade for them. EXP: I have A. Peterson signed to a contract so he fills in my 13th round draft choice but doesn't count as a drafted player. If I trade him away to Joe, Peterson loses his current contract. Joe can't sign Peterson because he wasn't really "drafted" he was drafted last year.

----If you drop/trade a player away with a contract, since they lose it you then get it back. EXP. I signed Peterson to a 3 year deal, if I drop or trade him, I will get my 3 year contract back.

4)You can't trade with an owner more then twice. This should open up the trading with everyone more. Also remember if you trade someone away, you can't trade for that player again until 5 games has passed, this rule was to block any "borrowing" trades to avoid byes.

If you have any contract questions post them in comments, I'm sure there are some bugs to work out with this system but we have worked on it all month. I'll handle any issues during the season.

Voting

This is voting for the below contract issue.

1) Get a new contract in place of the one on the dropped/traded player?

2) Get new contract when the old one expires

3) Get some type of 1 year contract or something

Last Contract Stuff...............I Think

Last issue to vote and discuss with contracts is, when someone drops/trades a signed player............do they.......


1) Get a new contract in place of the one on the dropped/traded player?

2) Get new contract when the old one expires

3) Get some type of 1 year contract or something

Since contracts don't carry with the players that are moved around I think any one of these could work.

Team Names

Post your team name for this year in the comments area, I'll update this post as the names come in.

Format is (team last year === owner name === team this year)

1.Pink Rabbits === Nick N === Pink Rabbits
2.Bebop Cola === Kevin === Cybertron Decepticons
3.Blue Heelers === Angie === Blue Heelers
4.Rogues === Dan === Rogues
5.Fresh Fish === Woody === Fresh Fish
6.Coonhounds === Joe === Coonhounds
7.Sappy Sap Suckers === Steve === Sappy Sap Suckers
8.Tenacious Tanuki === Branden === Tenacious Tanuki
9.---------------- === Charles === Fogduckers
10.--------------- === Amy === Gladiators

Contractssssssss again and again

Ok, while the last topic finishes up voting we have to decide what happens when a contracted player is traded or dropped. We already know that if you drop a unsigned player he loses all rights to be signed at all but what about players that are under contract already? Ideas

1) All dropped players lose current contract and become a normal FA and all traded players lose current contracts and become a normal player.

2)Contracts on players stay with that player until it expires no matter what.

3)Only traded players keep contracts they were signed too.

I think it would be easier if we did the first one. That way everyone knows what happens no matter what. Also it keeps owners from trying to get a bunch of signed players on their team, no one should get more then 2 signed players.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Ok so our contract talks for part 2 are done. This is the offical vote on it.

1)You can only sign drafted players that we kept on your roster or you got through a trade. All players that were drafted and released will lose all signing rights. If a player is placed on IR you can drop him and still have the option to sign him at the end of the year. This vote will also keep our rosters to 15 players

2)You can sign drafted players regardless if you keep them or not.

3)Draft picks/traded can be dropped safe if under contract already and will go back to owner at start of next season

New Item

I put up a link to the Fantasy Football News Pen, its just another blog to post fantasy news I find around, also helps those who can't look/find that stuff. It makes more sense to me to put that stuff there and our league stuff here.

If anyone wants to be able to post fantasy stuff on that blog let me know and I'll send you an invite to it.

Contracts Continued

So we can sign draft picks and players that were drafted and traded. Next contract issue will be the certain rules for signings. So options to talk about are.......

1. Draft picks must remain on roster for the whole year.

2. Draft picks/traded can be dropped safe if under contract already and will go back to owner at start of next season.

3. Draft picks/can be dropped safe all year with the option of signing at the end of the season.

this is all open to bringing new ideas to the table, in general is seems that rules that apply to draft picks might not apply to traded draft picks, which makes the issue alittle tricky. I think once we adopt one of this ideas then we can make firmer rules for it.

So.......................Next

Ok, so while the voting is going on for playoff next week, I'll put up the next debate topic. The issue of contracts have expanded farther then expected and my hope is get it straightened out. While we are getting it worked out I would like everyone to remember that new contract rules will not start until May 1st. Also there has to be some stability in the rules, because contracts are talking about having players for several years we need to set rules and make them solid for good, this is not an issue that can keep changing from year to year.These rules will be forever!

Lets take this slow and break it down. First, who can we sign? some options are

1) Just draft picks
2) Just free agents pick ups
3) Draft picks and Free agents
4) Draft picks and traded players (owner who traded the player away would lose rights to sign said player)
5) Just traded players
6) Free agents and traded players
7) Everyone

Ideas I think could work would be 1,2,3, and 4. I think 5,6, and 7 are extreme and can't work well. If you have other options then bring them up.

What An Idiot

Chris Henry was released by the Bengals. How many chances does he think he has? He's looking at another suspension. He's good, but stupid.

The Story

Voting for 6 team playoffs next year

This is not a debate topic, meaning you don't vote against and then say why you voted against or give a new idea, it's only for voting. You either vote

1. for
2. against

Playoffs......................Again.......................Next Year

Ok, so I voted against moving to 6 playoff teams instead of 8. Schaef also has said the topic is basically dropped due to lack of votes and nothing moving forward on it. My reasons for wanting 8 teams in again this year are:

1. We have new members(not just to this league, but to fantasy football in general)
2. Playoffs were a new idea last year and I think another year of 8 teams gets everyone used to them.
3. Yes I want the seasons to be extended for those players that were having some trouble but fought back to get in the top 8

These reasons are not permanent. I fought for 8 teams for those reasons but I myself would be fine with taking them on. Schaef and Dans balls put up good points (and shitty ones, plus trying to clump us into a group as the "Nitz's which I will call Namism) I bring this topic up because I would like to vote on next years playoff system now as a compromise.

My vote is FOR 6 teams in the playoffs next year, that should get everyone new to the idea time to adjust.

Oh One More Thing

Also the comments are going nuts, so I think that if you post a topic then please put up your points in it and let everyone vote on it. The debates we're having is not convincing either party to their side, its only debating and getting nothing done. So only put like one comment in your own posts if possible. We just need to be voting more and debating less, though its a good time its not productive.


And leave Dans balls out of your comments, he is a sensitive man and it hurts him.

Contracts Revisited

Ok, we have a few topics that are ongoing but some rules and changes will upset other rules and changes so, to get things kinda cleared up we should discuss the total rules for contracts. The number we have and years are the same but who we can sign will change based on this topic. Some things to vote on

1. Signing only our draft picks
2. Signing only our draft picks that you have on your roster at the end of the season
3. Signing traded players, which opens the door to free agents and a bunch of other messes
4. official rules for trading/cutting signed players

rules put into place now will not take effect until May, meaning all signings must only be done to your draft picks from last year.

Now lets get it done. I think all other topics should be put on hold until this is done.

What to do with the extra spot?

Ok, the 3 WR's post is getting kinda complicated with many ideas, so I am going to try to clean it up. We have an extra spot since we are down to one QB. So here are the main options...

3WR
Extra Bench Spot
Flex Position
Cut a Round from the draft and keep it 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, K, DEF, and the bench the same.

Just vote for what you prefer.

3 WRs

Since it looks like the 1 QB rule will pass I propose we go to 3 WRs to make up for that spot. WRs are the most abondant position out there so it only makes sense to switch to them.

I Feel The Love, It's Niiiicce, High Five!!

I'm happy to see everyone defending and putting up great comments and posts.

Playoffs

I think 8 out of 10 teams making the playoffs is overkill and makes the regular season meaningless.
I don't think that a team with 4 or 5 wins during the regular season has a right to play for the championship. I really think we should narrow it down to six teams. I feel that you should actually have to earn it a little bit. Even with six teams we would still have over 50% of the league making the cut.

On another note concerning the playoffs is the championship game. Most leagues play their championship game during week 16 because as most football fans know week 17 is basically a pre-season game or I guess you could say it's a pre-post season game. either way it's a total garbage week of football with the majority of starters sitting on the bench by the second quarter. I think if we had our championship game during week 16 it would be a much better ending to the season than the half-ass week 17 where you are just guessing well maybe this player will play a half, and maybe this guy will get a td in his one quarter of play.

Contracts

I would like to bring up the issue of awarding contracts to players. I would like to be able to give contracts to players that I traded for and did not draft. In the NFL when a team trades for a player they can give a contract to the new player even though they did not origianlly draft them. I would like to bring this item to vote.